Alternative, Scotland, PunkAlternative, Scotland, Punk

Formed: Dunfermline, Scotland, UK

Band Bio / Discography / Lineups

These Scottish anarcho punks first surfaced with the poppiest (and by far best) cut on 1981's execrable Bullshit Detector. “Change It’, lifted from their demo, was a pretty crap song, but it had a tune and the whole LP was so miserable that even this innocuous ditty sounded good.

Alternative, Scotland, Punk

So, having released their first recording via Crass, they spent the rest of their career being compared to them.

By the time of the In Nomine Patri EP, they had a second guitarist - Dougie McHale (Actives) - and Wilf had been replaced by Gordon 'Gogs' Smith. With the addition of another vocalist (Linda 'Linger' Rotherham) they then shared a split cassette with Dirt and Reality Control (Live 23.10.82 The Bunker), and underwent more lineup changes. The new band released If They Treat You Like Shit - Act Like Manure, an LP which is considered an anarcho punk classic. They split in 1986 after recording more demos with yet more personnel revisions.

Alternative, Scotland, Punk


Singles / Albums

Alternative - In Nomine Patri Alternative - If They Treat You Like Shit - Act Like Manure      
In Nomine Patri
(7", 1982)
If They Treat You Like Shit - Act Like Manure
(LP, 1984)

Extraneous Releases

Alternative - Demos 1982      
Demos 1982
(LP, 2011)

Demos / Tapes

Alternative - 1st Demo Alternative - 2nd Demo Alternative - Anti-Christ Tape Alternative - Sunderland Bunker 23/10/82 Alternative - War - The Inheritance Of Hate
1st Demo
(Tape, 1981)
2nd Demo
(Tape, 1981)
(Tape, 1982)
Sunderland Bunker 23/10/82 (Tape, 1982) War - The Inheritance Of Hate (Tape, 1983)
Alternative - Live At Vauxhall '84 Alternative - Eat The Rich Alternative - How Dare You! Alternative - Isolation From Oneself Alternative / Toxic Shock - Love And Life
Live At Vauxhall '84
(Tape, 1984)
Eat The Rich
(Tape, 1984)
How Dare You!
(Tape, 1984)
Isolation From Oneself (Tape, 1984) Love And Life
(Tape, c.1984)
Alternative - Just Because The Boot Fits, Doesn't Mean You Have To Wear It Alternative - Touch The Earth Alternative - No Government Can Ever Give You Freedom    
Just Because The Boot Fits, Doesn't Mean You Have To Wear It
(Tape, 1985)
Touch The Earth
(Tape, 1986)
No Government Can Ever Give You Freedom (Tape, 1987)    

Various Artists

Bullshit Detector UK LP 1981 (Crass): Change It

Live 23.10.82 The Bunker UK Tape 1982 (self-released): Try To Understand / What Now / Barrier War / Child Of The System / Moral Bondage / Warfear Great Britain / Dellusions

The Animals Packet UK Tape 1983 (Sky & Trees Tapes): Sick Man's Slaughter / Vanity Massacre

"Yes You Guessed It" UK Tape 1983 (Still Dying Tapes): Hawks & Doves / Killing Machine

Religious Vomit UK Tape 1983 (Public Disturbance): Hawks & Doves

1984 And All That... UK Tape 1980s (no label): Another Subversive Peace Song

A-Sides (Part Two. 1982-1984) UK CD 1992 (Crass): Anti-Christ

Kilt By Death: The Sound Of Old Scotland (1977-1984) ?? 2xCD 2005 (no label): Who's Sussed

Anti-Society: Anarcho Punk Compilation Vol. 3 UK CD 2006 (Overground): Where Are Your Hiroshimas?


Alternative fansite - really very good indeed, this one.

Lots of dodgy downloads - get their demos here

LISTEN AND UNDERSTAND - Beautiful photos and text

Punky Gibbon - Alternative


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